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  2. Liriel and Rob, I had at the start of this vest considered using aluminum scales, but I ended up going with steel because I kinda liked the idea of at least somewhat effective armor (even if the rings are butted). I was thinking for weight reduction to make the scales stop short and use aluminum rings to make the last 2 or so inches of mail. I think my next vest will follow your plan of aluminum scales though. As for the welder, damn, are there any other resistance welders out there of similar quality or will I just have to invest in a spot welder eventually? Paladin, Glad to hear that you've had good experience with this pattern (and that I haven't wasted my time making half a vest already). I'm thinking of using the 3/4 hard stainless steel for the stress points and reinforce them with titanium to make sure that they will rarely need repair. Also thank you for the heads up on the wearing of the vest, I had not stopped to consider what wearing 50 pounds of steel might do to somebody. As for the scale maintenance, I intend to oil them and store them with silica gel, but i'll be sure to scour them regularly. Thank you all for the help!
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  4. I've had very little maintenance with butted, 4in1 scale shirts overall. Though the extra rings add weight, they do reduce slippage. The most common spots for occasional slipped scales are around the collar where you pull it off of you, and the middle of the trunk where you bend over. Depending on your pattern, seams can also be a pain point. For example, a 45 degree seam is normally held together by one ring attaching a pair of scales. You can strengthen that seam by covering it with scales and adding the extra rings to keep them laying straight. Using stiffer stainless steel rings was smart, you'll have fewer slips than with softer metals, and less trouble maintaining the armor. I was also one of those 'weirdos' that wore steel for larping, since I got more points for the armor than aluminum or plastic. (I usually skipped a shield, so the extra points helped.) You will have to take care to build up to all day wear. Also, you might feel fine for a good while, but by the time you realize you need a break, you're already in for a good deal of back pain and stiffness later. So take the time to condition your core, lower back, and upper back between your shoulder blades for the additional weight. Pay attention to your knees as well. Even if well fitted, you still have to generate more force than you may be accustomed to in order to get in motion, to change directions, and to stop. Those steel scales are going to require a good bit more maintenance than aluminum or stainless steel scales. Remember to scour and oil them periodically. I also use Windlass Rust Blocker on my old galvanized steel ring and hardened steel scale shirt to extend the time between cleanings.
  5. Perfect, thanks Jodey!
  6. We should have the scalesm-tinocolor, which is used to make all the colors, back in stock within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner.
  7. Agree on that point. Unless the LARP organization specifically requires steel, you'd be far better off with anodized aluminum. With butted rings there is inevitably going to be regular maintenance needed, but putting the shirt on a diet would minimize that. Unfortunately TRL recently mentioned that the welder was out of stock and there would not be more made, so that's out.
  8. As you say, the main stress on a vest used in LARP is its own weight. With that in mind, do you really want to use steel scales? They are very heavy (putting stress in the rings... and on your body), and they are likely to rust. My favorite combination for very durable LARP armor is aluminum scales with stainless steel butted rings (using the standard weave for scales). The rings are fairly heavy, but the lighter scales mean that vest will be 15 pounds instead of 50 pounds... and it will be much more durable for larping.
  9. Hey everyone! I'm not sure when these went out of stock, but is there an ETA on SCALEsm-TIGrn please?
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  11. Hello, I recently started seriously working on a scalemail vest made with 5/16 butted stainless steel rings and large unhardened steel scales using the 4 in 1 weave at ~400 scales per square foot as described by Danny Ace. This vest was made to be worn for LARPs, but not very stressful ones and I used the weave with an extra ring in hopes that it would hold itself together better than normal scalemail. I came across a vest I had repaired on from a few years back (butted rings) that had almost disintegrated because of its own weight and I was wondering what the chances of this happening with the tighter weave would be as I would rather not make a vest thats going to die on me. I intend to reinforce the armpits and stress points with titanium, but i'm not sure thats going to be enough with butted rings. I've debated buying a resistance welder and going through to weld up the rings after finishing the vest, but I can't seem to find any for sale and TRL store makes no mentions of them anymore. I was wondering if anyone had any general tips for improving the durability of a vest, or even a link to a (hopefully cheap enough) resistance welder.
  12. We are working on making things smooth and easy for everyone. The process before was not smooth nor easy and in some cases we lost money because of it. Thank you.
  13. Thank you for informing me. It seems like you guys are working on a lot of changes right now. I'll go through the appropriate steps to initiate the process.
  14. Talen. This process is currently being changed. It is my #1 job and has been for weeks. This is the reason we are not able to give oyu a clear and easy anser - becasue I am spending my job making that answer and I don't have it yet. before this we have been making custom rings without paying attention to our costs. In many cases we made rings for less than our cost. I am working on a solution to make Jodey's job and your job getting the answer to this much much easier. But for now it has to go thru me and I look into things and then get back to Jodey and her to you. I am making daily progress on this project and getting much closer to a solution making this easy for all. In short - Jodey doesn't have these answers yet - I am changing current policy and procedure.
  15. So basically what you're saying is, minimum cost, wait time and volume are all dependent on what is being purchased? The topic of this thread is Anodized Aluminum so my question is only for those types of products. I'm only seeking general information that anyone would ask for before making a custom order. Like, is the minimum cost to make an order $100, $200, $500? Roughly calculated, would the wait time be days, weeks or even months? What is the percent of volume of product I receive out of the batch you would need to make to fill the order?
  16. At this time we have no eta. It will be weeks before they are in the production queue.
  17. Sorry I put this in the wrong place early. Any estimated ETA in XL black Anodized aluminum scales?
  18. Yes, that is the information that we will get for you if you could please email us directly.
  19. Do you have an estimate for when the medium red and medium mirror gold will be back in stock?
  20. I was hoping for a bit more detail as to what is involved, like minimum cost, wait time, volume. Something that anyone would want to know ahead of time.
  21. I'll answer here, but you may want to ask this in the scales room as well. We do not have an ETA at this time, but it will be weeks before they will be in the production queue.
  22. My compliments to a great photographer, model, and painter. This about layering the right pieces, nailing the make, choosing the right theme, nailing the image, and a bit of post editing.
  23. please send an email to orders (at) the with your request. We will respond by Thursday.
  24. By the way, this is why I just order $780 worth of materials.
  25. Sorry about blocking the view. It was a great day! #arcaniajc
  26. I had a great Saturday. It is safe to say my work stood out from the rest of the fashion show. #arcaniajc
  27. And your "marathon of a project" will take you about one hundred man hours in the weaving. Variable amounts of trying it on, fondling it, looking in the mirror and admiring, et cetera. Your Mileage Totally Varies.
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