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  1. I would like to make a suit of chainmaille armor that can actually withstand a sword strike...so since I don't have a golden nugget to spend on rings lol what size of ring i.e. ID, outer diameter, gauge, and ring material should I make this project with? I figured on buying these rings (See posted pic highlighted area) and that might be a good choice however I am not entirely certain. Also, I will be riveting the rings too. Thanks for the help!
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    I would like to thank everyone for their input about this topic but I have yet another question that is totally off topic and I figured why post another thread when I already have one going lol. Why is galvanized steel not appropriate for jewelry? It doesn't rust very easily so I would imagine it would be pretty ideal right or did I not understand the description of the item on the site?
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    I was doing a quick read through the links you gave me and i was curious about keeping your chainmaille rust free. How often do you oil your chainmaille? I read that you can also use wax on your chainmaille which sounds like a better way to go since some people may not like the oil.
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    okay I am going to stop you right there and thank you immensely. My friends love vikings and they wanted me to make them a chainmaille sleeve and a coif these links will be greatly appreciated. thank you and my thanks goes out to everyone who has put in their suggestions. If anyone else has anymore ideas or tips I am more than willing to read them!
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    Thank you for the response! I'll look forward to any resources you have to offer! I'll look and see if the hardware store has rebar tie wire in stock.
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    @canisunis Thanks for the link! I shied away from mild steel because of how easily it rusts. i have tried researching on how medieval smiths used to treat the metal to keep it from rusting and someone said that they purposely let the metal rust to a brownish color and then poured hot beeswax over the metal and buffed it. I have also read that they blued it...does anyone have any ideas? or resources?
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    @Milquetoast My experience with maille has been making japanese butted maille. I also did a small floral design that looked like this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.doomlegends.com/maille/hexmaille.png&imgrefurl=http://www.doomlegends.com/maille/weaves.html&h=300&w=400&sz=65&tbnid=x53PkDKEo5KYGM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djapanese%2Bmaille%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=japanese+maille&usg=__BUj274q9-KM_E6NyKpJ7ojB3rcQ=&docid=b8qASJ0OtzjEtM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xvdpUIaMM-aNygGGloCADQ&ved=0CCkQ9QEwAg&dur=3 only with a smaller ring inside the bigger rings and the all of those other rings interlocking into that big one...imagine my sample with the smaller ring holding onto all of those other rings if that makes sense at all lol. I really need to find a book that explains how to make battle ready armor...I came here to ask you guys because I am just gathering information before setting out to make this project. like step 1. find out which rings to get. step 2. get the books. lol. I am by no means going to have me or a friend put this maille suit on and start swinging away with a sword to test the suit lol I would like to make a suit that is battle ready that a medieval knight would have no problem wearing because he could trust his life with it. I know it takes a long time to learn how to make things properly but I am also confident enough that I can learn how to do this. How did you guys learn how to make maille? books? dvds? Thank you for your advice and the size of rings I should use...that was one of my bigger problems.
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    What would be a good ring to use for armor?

    I was just figuring on doing this all by cold hammering and what not. I didn't really want to mess with the annealing process and I don't really want the rings to rust because that's just a pain lol. I haven't really practiced annealing steel to be honest.
  9. Hello, I would like to make a 6 inch by 6 inch swath of 6 in 1 european chainmail. I am interested in the stainless steel punched rings that are 16g Wire diam. 0.062" 1.6mm 3/8"ID I see that the bag contains 300 rings. Would that be enough to make a 6 inch by 6 inch swath? Also, I am interested in the small stainless steel scales and like the chainmail, I would like to make a 6 inch by 6 inch swath. How many scales would I need for that and is it possible to rivet the rings with the scalemail? My last question is what size of rivets would I need to make riveted chainmail/scale mail? I am doing this for college in a "how to speech" so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your time!
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    Wow, that is awesome. I really like your work!
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    @calisandra I understand what you are saying. I would like to make the scales as historically accurate as possible. LOL. I am looking at the split rings right now and they say that they are .184" ID If I used the 5/16" rings there wouldn't be gapping but they won't overlay as much. Wouldn't the 5/16" suffice for the scales? What would the overlap look like with the scales if I used the 5/16" instead of the .184"? I know I am asking the impossible question here I am just wondering if you could give me an estimate. The only reason I am asking is because I printed off their ring size chart and I can't find the .184" size on there. @Milquetoast Yeah, I don't want to use a very large ring for the scales. I wish they had a 1/4" ring as that would probably do well for the scales and chainmail.
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    I don't even plan on using the split rings. I plan on just riveting the entire thing. I would like to see the scalemail withstand a good beating without me having to worry about the scales slipping out. I am looking at the overlapped rings on the site and I thought that I could flatten those rings out and rivet the scalemail with the 5/16" as you suggested. I think you can rivet scalemail with no problem correct?
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    @Apprentice: that does make a lot of sense to do it the way you described. @Senior Member: I know that kind of feeling trust me at 12 midnight my brain is done with activities LOL. Although here's another question I am wondering about before I order rings tonight. Would ordering 16gauge 3/8" ID rings be better for the scales or the 5/16" ID? Since the 5/16" rings are smaller than the 3/8" I am thinking the 5/16" would be better because it would pull the scales together in a closer weave what do you all think? I am sorry for all the questions don't you hate it when you think you have everything straightened out and then another question pops up? Thank you all for your patience and understanding you all have been great!
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I realized that the edges would rust when I was looking at them last night. I think I am just going to go with the stainless steel. I wonder why they wouldn't plate the edges of them though. I know they were punched out of sheet metal and perhaps they could electroplate the metal? Problem with electroplating is that you would end up with two massive large nickel plates on top and bottom and the edge would only get a small amount haha
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    okay so you are saying that buying the bigger scales would be a better deal? Thank you all for your opinions and your time you all have been of great value to me!
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    Yeah I don't think SCA would be around for very long if they role played with real weapons LOL. So you personally used the nickel plated and cleaned them every now and then? I take it that your scalemail is holding up rather well? Have you or anyone else tried the stainless steel and how it held up? Thank you all for your time and your patience I am rather a newb and my only experience with chainmailing was making Japanese 4 in 1 and overlapping the rings haha.
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    I was thinking of battle ready in the sense of if I took a real sword to the armor and started hacking away at it. I want the armor to be as realistic as possible as if it were really made by medieval blacksmiths. I apologize but I am not up to speed on SCA or LARP the only medieval battle role playing I am used to is Dagorhir which is battling with foam weapons. I wikied SCA and that's the kind of role playing that I want this armor to be made out of. Unfortunately I am on a tight budget and I cannot afford the bigger scales. So my next question is I really like the stainless steel but the nickel plated mild steel ones are thicker however they are plated and thus the protective material will be worn off. Which scales would you suggest that would resist the elements and be the strongest?
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    Question about scalemail and chainmail

    Alright, I am curious if buying the nickel plated scales would be a better deal than the stainless steel scales. The nickel scales are cheaper and are thicker however they are also plated which means that the protective covering can be rubbed off. I would like to have the best scales that are battle ready and have the best weather proofing. Any thoughts on which scales? Thanks again for your help!
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