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  1. That is great. i like the layout, and it has some functionality that I've wanted to add to IGP for years. (Specifically, the ability to create shapes out of the scales (or rings, as would be in my case.)
  2. One of the patterns in IGP is scales. However, IGP requires the initial image to be resized (1 pixel = 1 scale) and posterized (lowering the number of colors in the image to the number of your materials).Various paint applications (such as GIMP or Paint.NET, both available for free) are capable of doing this. You're welcome.
  3. If I'm reading the pattern correctly, it is a half persian 3-1 pattern, but with the rings doubled, effectively make the weave HP 6-2. The ring doubling, however, is not by putting them side-by-side (referred to as kinged), but instead using rings of different sizes, where the OD of one ring matches the ID of the other, and the rings are concentric (referred to as scaled). I have never made Telbaneer, so I am not positive on this, but since normal HP 3-1 generally uses an aspect ratio (AR) around 4, I would estimate that a good starting point for Telbaneer would be to use rings with AR's of 5 and 7 (using the same wire diameter). At least, that's where I would start.
  4. When I've made know row expansions/contractions, I prefer to use rings of various aspect ratios to help ease the transition. Stats for the image are as follows: Gray - 14 ga x 3/8 Orange - 14 ga x 5/16 Yellow - 14 ga x 1/4 Red - (2) 16 ga x 3/16; I did not have any 14 ga x 3/16
  5. If you're planning on hanging the byzantine off of a frame (like the one shown above), "right" and "wrong" ways won't matter for hanging the byzantine chains. If your're hanging the inlay between two dowels, "right" way is likely to require more rings than "wrong" way, as the inlay is going to want to squish together under its own weight, making for more rectangular "pixels" in the image. If you're planning on just having a top dowel and hanging the byzantine off of the inlay itself (which sounds like your intent), you would probably be better off using the "wrong" way hang. I have some patches of Euro 4-1 and various chains around the house. I see what I can mock up and take some pictures of the curl in either direction. I ran my first Super Spartan (8+ miles) in 2012. I still fear the Beast (13+ miles). Congrats on doing Trifectas!
  6. The "wrong" way and "right" way naming convention was not meant to imply that there were right and wrong ways to make inlays, but to try to help people understand which direction the rings would be hanging. When making armor, there really is a "right" and "wrong" way, if your goal is to protect yourself from weapons, and the naming came from that.
  7. I don't think this is quite how the Chinese made their mountain armor. But seriously, that's great!
  8. It really does. If you've got a piece of Euro 4-1 maille handy, hold it "right way" and "wrong way" under gravity. You'll see a massive difference.
  9. For more info on IGP, see the links in my signature. Also, be aware that a hang of a shirt will distort the image - how much distortion exists depends on the body shape of the person wearing the shirt and how well-tailored the shirt is to that person. A good example of this would be Dr. T's panther shirt - the ellipse in the background was originally intended to be a circle.
  10. That is very nice. I found it very easy to understand and use. I especially like the glow around the scale that indicates that the scale is active, and that the appearance is much closer to reality than what IGP offers. The estimated sizes are great, too. Suggestions for improvement: 1. List the sizes and weights in both metric & English units 2. Add labels to the width & height text boxes. 3. In the Tips area, add that Ctrl+0 will restore the default size. 4. Modify the selectable region of the scale to better match the visible region of the scale. If I ever get back to working on IGP again, I will be looking at your interface for inspiration. Excellent job!
  11. My heaviest armor is a 35 lb shirt, plus 7 lb for a coif. I wear it about once a year, to the Ren faire, so I'm walking around for 6 to 8 hours in it. It's tiring, and by the end of the day I'm taking more rest breaks, but it's doable. Like Konstantin said, if you do it every day, your body will adapt. Unfortunately, my body has somewhat adapted to sitting behind a desk.
  12. Counting rings from the center of his chest to the armpit seam, I'm came up with 9. Assuming that the the armor is symmetrical side-to-side, and probably asymmetrical front-to-back (with an extra 4" in the back), I'm guessing around 40 rings. I'm guessing that the guy has about a 40-42" chest. Therefore, I'm expecting that horizontal spacing between rings is approximately 1 inch. Measuring off of the 3rd image in the area just below the talons on the pendant , the horizontal spacing between rings is about 130 pixels, and the ring ID and OD are about 53 and 74 px, respectively. If 130 px = 1", then 53 px = .41" and 74 px = .57", with a wall of .08". Springback normally adds about 6% to the ring ID, so my estimated mandrel ID = .41 / 1.06 = .387. So, my best guess is 14 SWG (.080") x 3/8 ID rings are used. Looking at the pattern, it appears to be some sort of octogonal weave, with rings woven in place by the leather. The horizontal and vertical lines appear to be 1/8" wide, and the diagonal lines appear to be 3/16" wide. You should be able to use the Ring Lord's shirt calculator (http://theringlord.com/cart/shopcontent.asp?type=Euro4in1ShirtCalculator) to figure out the square footage required. This particular pattern appears to use 288 rings per square foot.
  13. Here's a link to my scale graph paper made for IGP: http://www.zlosk.com/~zlosk/maille/inlays/img/smallscalepage.png
  14. Incudo runs on the command line and quickly converts data images to patterned images. It's written in python, so it can run on any system that runs python, which means it can pretty much run on any system that you are likely to use. IGP was written in VB.NET, which means that it is WIndows only. It is much, much slower to convert data images into patterns, and does not work with the color white (RGB 255, 255, 255). However, it allows tweaking of the inlay, or even creation of an inlay, in the program.
  15. It looks like it's 2-connector byzantine with a head pin running through it, so I'm assuming the AR is 3.5. The OD of the rings appears to be about the same as the OD of the round bead on top. I don't know Swarovskis, but it seems to me like Konstantin's estimate might be a bit large, as the wire thickness of the ring does not appear to be vastly greater than the wire thickness of the head pin. A quick Google of head pins shows 21 ga & 24 ga pins being sold at Fire Mountain Gems. Googling for Swarovski gem sizes came up with too many results to easily tell what was going on. I did find a size chart for what looks like bicones to my unpracticed eye; I am assuming that more spherically cut stones are made to the same sizes. So, if the top bead is... ...2.5 mm, the ring size is approximately .018" (25 AWG) x .063 I.D. ...3 mm, the ring size is approximately .021" x .075 I.D. ...4 mm, the ring size is approximately .029" (21 AWG) x .100 I.D. ...5 mm, the ring size is approximately .036"(19 AWG) x .125 I.D. ...6 mm, the ring size is approximately .043" x .150 I.D. ...8 mm, the ring size is approximately .057" (15 AWG) x .200 I.D. By eyeball, my guess is that the bead is 4 or 5 mm.