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  1. Have to give some praise to TRL here. I pretty much got into mailing to have cool looking, hassle free armor. Got into leather working first, got decent at that and then got into chain mail a bit. I've never been concerned with actual stopping power or historical accuracy, just looking cool for ren faires and having fun making my own stuff. TRL got me roped into galvy, and aluminum rings and mild steel scales (which I love love love), but I've still longed for some awesome plastic mail options. These new engineered plastic rings are the answer. They are awesome. They're easy to paint and they pretty much are the solution I've been seeking for the last 8 years or so after Weta Workshop put this idea of plastic mail in my brain. With a little paint they'll look as real as you want, they seem to be quite stout and are well worth it in case anyone was wondering about them.
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    Engineered plastic 4 and 1 w/ Lamellar

    Halloween at work 2013. Rinds for shirt are large engineered rings from TRL.
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    Large mild steel scale shirt.
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    Engineered plastic sleeves.

    I've been very pleased with the large black engineered plastic rings. With a little finishing they really pass for some costume grade 4 in 1 armor. Dwarven inspired bracers also recently done in leather. After seeing the Hobbit a couple of times I had to scratch the itch.
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    Plastic rings make the world go round.

    Thanks for the responses. I haven't tried to glue them since my uses will be costume only. They click together pretty tight on their own and there's some natural tension that helps keep them closed. They're actually kind of hard to re-open if you make a mistake. They are a bit pricey too but for me they are perfect because I want weathered looking, beaten up mail without any of the drawbacks you might get using metals (rust, smell, paint chipping, etc). I've made several pieces out of BA and the price and weight are fine. They do need to be etched and painted unless you want perfectly clean looking BA (which I don't). The big appeal of these plastic rings to me are that you don't need pliers to put them together and you can paint them to look however you want. The no pliers makes weaving literally twice as fast for me.
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    Plastic 4 in 1

    Engineered plastic rings painted to look like weathered steel. These things are awesome.
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    Plastic 4 in 1

    Silver Rub n' Buff. It will take a while to fully dry because the rings are smooth but it works like magic. When the shirt is done I'll stipple on tiny rusted areas with Tandy brand gel leather dye.
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    5/16" Galvy shirt and mantle.
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    TRL scales used in Immortals

    Hey, just thought I'd share this in case anyone cared. I got a chuckle watching the new movie Immortals tonight when I spotted TRL large scale rings used for one of the bad guys. It was one of Hyperion's principal henchmen. He had a long scale "ponytail" coming out of the back of his hood, a long scale sleeve on one arm and a column of scales going down the center of his face mask. Pretty cool I say.
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    TRL scales used in Immortals

    I say ponytail for lack of a better term. It was a long, funnel shaped scale thing coming out of the back of the head and hung down his back. They were definitely TRL large scales. Lots of people hated the movie a lot. I'm personally a Tarsem Singh and Henry Cavill fan so there was a lot for me to like.
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    TRL scales used in Immortals

    If you just let it happen and don't overanalyze it then it's great. I personally loved it. I thought the art direction was phenomenal.
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    Ring size help

    Hey TRL! I've been dormant for a while, making little projects here and there. Currently I'm finishing up a galvy half shirt with short sleeves (to be worn under surcoat or tunic) but I need a little help on my next project. I want to make a shirt or hauberk with regular alum rings, thick guage, biggish ring size. I've experimented before with some 12g 7/16 rings and although the 4-1 worked fine- it just left a little too much space between the rings for my liking. I was wondering if anyone had any 4-1 experience using 12g rings. What's the smallest ID you'd use to maintain movement and flexibility? I'm going for a Boromir-esque sort of look to the shirt.
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    Ring size help

    Weta workshop is magic. Originally they did make them out of straight up PVC pipe in a deli slicer like machine but it's down to a science now. I have made some plastic mail before that looked very decent but was a pain to keep the rings closed. You can check out Dai Mogwai's Indy mogul tutorial on making your own plastic rings out of silver colored plastic bindings for calendars and such. Weta now has a factory in china that produces high end suits of plastic mail for films. All of the suits for Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood are theirs. The rings are Injection molded so that they snap shut ala shower curtain rings. No pliers needed. It truly is the Holy Grail of costume mail. Shame they do not sell them publicly.
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    Ring size help

    Thanks for the reply. It will be strictly costume, no hitting. I'm only choosing regular aluminum for the light weight and metallic look (Bright alum is too shiny for me). I'm a very large person and a shirt of steel would weight a ton and be no fun to walk around in all day. This is for Halloween / Ren Faire use. I'm very familiar with LOTR books and films and I'm just using Boromir's film shirt as an example. It's pretty much the same type of ring used with all mailed Men of Gondor wore in the films. Those rings are square but I haven't found a supplier for that, I'm just trying to get loosely the same look. Here is an example of a previous piece made with 12G 1/2"ID aluminum. I like it but I want a "tighter" looking weave without so much space between hanging rings. I guess 12G 7/16" would be my best bet then. Will is still move enough to be worn as a shirt? If anyone had examples of 4-1 done with this size rings I'd love to see them.
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    Round Scale pic request.

    Hi everyone, I was interested in seeing some pieces using TRL's new round scales. I've looked on the boards and gallery and haven't seen anything. The only pic I could find is the example on the main page. I wanted to know if anyone could post an example of a project they've done using these. Or maybe just a link to some. I'm trying to get an idea of how these scales hang when being worn. Thanks a lot.
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    Scale Armor

    Haha, yea. At different points during the parade my group and I would stop and strike "Heroic Poses" for the crowd. People really got a kick out of it.
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    Scale Armor

    Ok, I'm entering the final stages of this shirt so I thought I'd post. I'll try to update with more (and better) pics of the finished product. Large Mild Steel Aluminum Rings Leather I have been toiling over this armor for a while. Originally the goal was to have a leather and scale shirt that would be kind of fantasy but rough looking. I quickly learned that I don't have the patience or skill for doing A LOT of scales. Also, even though I love the look of Mild Steel the darn thing would have been too heavy to do the whole thing with them. What I ended up doing was a 4-1 ring/Scale combo for the body of this thing and I really dig the (almost) finished product. I know that technically it is very poor and there was a lot of improvising going on. I am all about 'form over function' since this is going to be purely decorative and not used for anything practical. I'm going to experiment with some sleeves, probably leather with some 4-1 just hanging over. Thanks to everyone who has given me good advice. I'm such a chainmail noob and I have a lot of respect for what you do.
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    Scale Armor

    About 1300 scales... Here's another pic.
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    Scale Armor

    Thanks for the nice comments everyone. Wore the armor out this weekend (last weekend of Scarborough Faire) and even walked the parade (no picnic in the heat!). I really am starting to like this armor and I just wish I had some better pics... this is a good one but far away. When its actually "done" I'll try to post some more up close pics.
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    Scale Armor

    Thanks for all the comments. I wore the armor out for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It held up very well. It was a bit heavy but I think I will get used to it. Here is a pic with the rest of the getup.
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    Question about aluminum

    Thanks for posting, that table is all the info I needed. Reg AL is what I'm looking for.
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    Question about aluminum

    Hey everyone, I've worked a bit with TRL bright aluminum rings for a costume and dipped them in Drano and re-painted them to give them a rusty worn finish. They came out ok. What I've been wondering is how the normal aluminum rings compare looks-wise to bright aluminum. I know aluminum is 'dirty' to wear, which i'm not really concerned about, but is it "darker" or less shiny than BA in appearance? Does it resemble steel any more than BA? Any thoughts from people who've worked with aluminum and BA for armor would be greatly appreciated. I couldn't really find this info in other threads.
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    basics of scales

    Scales drove me nuts too at first. I found out (not soon enough) that you almost have to do diamonds of equal size and then connect them diagonally to get a piece that will sit right. Remember each scale has to be pulled on equally in all 4 directions to stay in place, so it will always flop around to start if you're adding 1 scale at a time because its not built evenly yet. Do a diamond of 4... add 4 of those together and you get 16, 4 of those and you have a diamond of 64 and so on.... before long you have a large symmetrical diamond that can easily be converted in a sheet. Also I found that first making many small clusters of 4 out of split rings works best. You don't even need a tool. Grab a scale and add 2 rings any old way, then add scales to the left and right of it. Just remember to have the scale face down (back side facing up) when connecting it to another scale from the right- and to have the scale face up when connecting it from the left, then flip it around to match the others. This is a simple rule of thumb to make sure your scales are not backwards and will save you a lot of time. Also, most importantly for my piece was to use a mixture of split and butted rings. Split rings are good for making the small groups of 4, but complicated and time consuming for connecting large diamonds together, for that I just used Galvy with the same inner diameter and it worked perfectly. I know others have different techniques, this is the only method that worked for me. I don't think I'm a "born mailer" but this process got me through it, haha. Good luck.
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    Completed E6-1 Coif

    That is insanely cool looking.
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    Distressing bright aluminum mail

    Alright, this pic sucks and was taken on my phone but I just have a side by side comparison of the original b.a. rings and the etched/painted ones... I'll post some pics of the worn peice eventually... I'm working on a new part at the moment...