mightydog

Word of suggestion... Make square patches and connect the patches together. When you add 100 rings to 2000 rings you don't see any progress but when you connect a 12 row by 12 column patch to another you see a big difference. When I was working on my 1st shirt that's what I did. Because I got to the point I could make a 12x12 patch in about an hour. Being able to see the progress made me want to work on it more. V/r Md

Also if there is any type of weight having thin straps can get uncomfortable quick.

I use 1 pair of smooth duckbill (flatnose) pliers and 1 pair of bent needle nose pliers. On the bent ones I usually use the bend for holding rings unless I'm doing seam work and need to get into a tight spot. I've used them on 16ga 3/16 SS. I don't think there is a universally best pliers. It all depends on what works for you and what you are comfortable with.

I wear just a shirt under mine. Nothing heavy at all. I also wear a Kings belt over the chain. that helps with taking some of the weight off the shoulders. I just wore my hauberk for `13 hours last saturday no issues. Weight distribution is very important. You will need padding if it's just hanging from your shoulders.

The collar looks to be Euro 4 in 1 box. It's just 4 rows of Euro connected together. The sleeve looks like Full Persian 6 in 1. Both are chain style weaves instead of a sheet weave. It looks like the vest is attached to each where ever an edge ring can be placed cosmetically appealing.

Anyone going or working the Virginia Ren fest? I'm planning on going the weekend of May 16th if anyone wants to meet up. For more info the website is varf.org V/r MD

Normal is a setting on a washing machine! Thank god I'm not normal. I could only imagine how boring that would be.

I use 18 3/16 and 16 5/16 for Half persian 3 in 1 and 4 in 1. It'll also work for Euro 4 in 1 but looks better in a euro 6 in 1. Both of which can be done flat or in round form. I've seen Byzantine in 16 5/16 stretchy. I've also done Captive inverted round in 18 3/16.

If I'm not mistaken the rings used for large scales are 16ga 5/16id. Which also makes a very nice E4in1. So trasitioning from large scles to E4in1 using that size would flow naturally.

Just finished this Belly dancer belt for a friend's birthday. What do you think? Stats: Belt E 4in1 16ga 5/16 stainless with hp 3in1 trim along the top Diamonds in the net are E 4in1 18ga 3/16 Stainless Net is anodized AL curb chain Large scales are just for added flair 3 different sizes of bells More pics in the gallery http://www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/gallery/image/6042-belly-dancer-belt/ http://www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/gallery/image/6041-belly-dancer-belt/ V/r MD

I'd really like the E4in1 shirt done. But would also be interested on how the Gantlet would turn out. The shirts are stainless and the gantlet is Titanium. Do you think either would be possible?