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    scalemail without rings?

    So here's what I ended up doing. I drilled holes in the scales to make a different kind of weave. Much, much looser, but we both like it. It's tough because I don't have a full studio to create the perfect jig for the scales. Because they are curved, it is hard for me to make them stay still while I drill the holes. Through trial and error, lots of error, I found that 4 scales at a time is about as much as I can do. I bought a dowel the size of the main hole to help hold things in place, drilled holes in a blank piece of wood and for the main dial and some to hold the sides in place. Drill one scale as a template and then use the holes as guides and do about 4 at a time. Sometimes I get cocky and try 6, but always end up ruining them because they slide around under the drill. I can only use my template so many times because the drill will mess with the holes. You can see that in the first picture. If you are trying this, a variable speed drill is a must, because you want to start slow so the scale doesn't move as much. The nice thing is that the little plastic burrs around the holes just pop off when you rub them with a finger, so the scales are nice and smooth. The weave is really loose, but that's fine for us. It's going to take awhile to make the outfit I want, but may post pictures when I'm done with it. The weave is really easy, but it is boring to make the scales. Hah! bob
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    scalemail without rings?

    Well, string anyway. I have some light purple cotton string from another non-chainmail project and I'll see what that might do.
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    scalemail without rings?

    Eric, Yes, that is what I had in mind. The only two problems -- and I use the term loosely -- is that knitting with yarn is a lot less revealing that what I hoped for and what I know about knitting can be written in very large crayon on the back of a very small matchstick. OTOH, the yarn would make a really nice bikini; the soft yarn would guarantee you wouldn't pinch or irritate the skin. I completely forgot to put in that the scales I have on hand are the clear plastic kind from the ringlord, so I was hoping to make something that showed off the wearer. Here are the kind I've got on hand: http://theringlord.com/images/products/scales/SCALESM-PC-Clear.jpg. The heck of it is that I can almost see the solution. I've gotten very close with wire and thread, but it just doesn't seem to look like I want it to. I might try a combination of rings and thread and see how that looks. If I figure something out and get pictures, I'll post them in the appropriate forum. Thanks, bob
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    scalemail without rings?

    Hi, I am trying to do something with scalemail but without using rings to join them. Does anyone have any experience or examples of weaving basic bikini/breechcloth type clothing with something other than rings? When I'm done, there won't be a lot of coverage. In my tests, braiding the wire lets me put the rings in where I want and hold them in place. Since the scales are clear plastic, the colored wire does make a nice highlight. I'm just no sure if that is the best way to go. I've got some very thin wire that would work, some cotton craft thread, or some clear nylon thread on hand, but would get whatever works. The nice thing about the cotton thread is that it is softer against skin. The wire is thin enough that it bends like thread, but too much it breaks. Thanks! bob
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    Wooden Mail? Possible?

    Maybe one of the plastic rings from https://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=219 and then paint them as needed? If you really wanted a wood look you could paint them in solid shades of brown(all very close so it looks like natural variation, plus you would have to weave similar colors together). Then when you have made the shirt, paint on the grain. Possibly airbrush if you have something like that. I know if I did it, I would never be satisfied with the grain. But the plastic rings should be durable and light. Caveat: I've never used them, YMMV.
  6. Hi, I want to make a bikini top and bottom with the 4 hole round blanks, but I'm not sure what ring to get to go with them. I'm specifically making something with TagLGAA-4HPur from http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=207&cat=Blanks+%26+Tags.%C2'> I don't want the rings to overlap. I'd like no more than 1/4 inch gap between the disks. Probably 1/8 or 1/16 would be a better gap to allow the round blanks to curve a bit but not be too loose. I didn't see any examples in the examples gallery. If you know of one, I'd like to take a look at it. I was also thinking that I could hang/attach the chain to an existing bikini. My sewing skills are non-existent, so I was thinking an inexpensive string bikini -- literally just the string -- would be good. Just a single string waist with a single string g-string for the bottom and a string top with cutouts for the breasts. Even a good lycra string belt would be a good start. Then I could just attach the chain to the lycra and tada. Thanks for any help and suggestions you can give me! Bob
  7. Thanks for the suggestions. @Rob MacLennan - Yeah, my google-fu was bad; I was hoping someone else's might be superior. I think part of the problem is that I'm not sure what I actually want. I was hoping to get a lot of pictures -- even fantasy drawings -- to give me ideas. The 3D Print is a great idea though. Unfortunately, the good, cheap, 3D printing service is done by people I know and work with, so I might have to think up a lie and think it up quick. There's online places that I will check out. @Konstantin the Red - I'll see what that turns up. Oddly enough, some Bing and Yahoo image searches got better results that google! Duck, Duck, Go will solve that.
  8. Hi, I'm doing some fantasy armor and I was trying to find a large sort of buckle or tasset or emblem to make a belt/g-string with. Sort of like https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31oTLLVVypL.jpg (possibly NSFW in some places, no nudity). Like a Red Sonja or Vampirella might wear. Could also be a very large Thor's hammer for a guy too. I have http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-87491460501412/conquest-undead-skull-groin-plate-7.gif but it isn't quite what I was looking for. I'm not entirely sure what I am looking for, but if there was a selection I hope I could find something. Anyone know of some good places to look or what words to google? Other than tasset or buckle, I just wasn't sure what the name might be. Thanks! bob
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    belt advice for scale mail loincloth

    Here are some pics. If I get any of my wife modeling it, I'll post them in adult. It's no more showy than the average bikini, but just in case.
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    belt advice for scale mail loincloth

    I did finally figure this out. Part of the problem was that I would hold the loincloth up to look at it and the top would curve and hang funny. As soon as there was actual flesh behind it, it hung normally. What I ended up doing for the loincloth was to use just a single elastic band, about a quarter of an inch wide, with no belt at all. Then further down the loincloth, like rows two and four IIRC, I made longer chains to connect them. The purpose there was two fold. First, it helps keep the side scales oriented correctly for the first few rows. Second, it gives a nice bit of swaying chain when my wife walks. The bra was much easier to make, although harder to get the fit right. Again, I used mainly chain with just a little elastic in the bottom part of the bra(don't know what it is called). The cups are joined across her chest with just an adjustable chain. And enough dangling chain to sway nicely. I'm not 100% happy with the connector that goes from the top of the cups and around the back of her neck, but it works. This has been really hard to describe. I definitely need to get some pictures. Both of the plain scales and some of her in them. When I get them, I'll post them if people are curious.
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    belt advice for scale mail loincloth

    I was picturing the scale from the back when I made those pictures. Probably because I'd been looking at the back of the two pieces for a month as I worked on them in my spare time. I didn't bother showing all of the little split rings that you would normally see from the back. They are just regular scale pieces that look like the ones here: That's why on the third picture, with the belt on the outside of the scales it is behind the belt in the picture and on 4, where the scale would cover the belt for the viewer's perspective the belt is on top of the scale. I didn't bother going through each circle on the belt to get the transparency correct so the rings would look correct for a 4-1 belt. Sorry about the confusion, I've just been looking at the back side for so long that's the only way I think of it. Bob
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    belt advice for scale mail loincloth

    I was thinking of mail only. Ideally for this use, the belt would be as thin as possible, invisible if possible. This is really supposed to be a fantasy illustration kind of piece. Of course, those clothes are as unrealistic as the bodies they are barely covering.
  13. Hi, I made a scale loincloth, front and back, and am trying to think of the best way to make the belt for them. The back is a rectangle and the front is an upside down pyramid. The back is much, much heavier than I imagined. So I need a good way to hold them up and do it tightly. Given my skill level, I think a simple 4-1 belt is the way to go, but I am having trouble deciding the best way to do it. I've come up with 4 ideas: 1) Attach the scale directly to the belt like this: 2) Put a spacer ring between the scale and the belt: 3) Attach the scale to the middle ring of the 4-1 belt and put the scale on the outside of the belt: 4) Attach the scale to the middle ring and hide the top of the scale behind the belt: Any ideas on what might work best? Thanks! Bob PS to the Mods, I hope this was the right place to post. I didn't think there was anything Adult in this post, but if it needs to be moved to the adult forum, I can delete it and re-post it there.
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    small scale and weaving dexterity

    I figured out part of my problem. The scales kept flipping around and getting reversed. It has to do with the exact way to thread the split rings into the scale. This sounds confusing, but it makes sense to me and maybe it will help someone else. Start with 3 scales, each with two rings already attached, like Legba suggests. Scale A is going to be the top of the pyramid, B is the left one and C is the right one. To make a very simple three scale pyramid. Notice how the split rings are wound. Imagine the ring is a spiral staircase. As you walk up from the bottom of the staircase you are traveling counter clockwise. If start at the top of the staircase and walk down you are traveling clockwise. Lay the A, B, and C color side down and overlapping the way they should when finished. For B, open the top of the ring so the top end of the ring has to come up through the hole and over the top of the plain side. For C, open the bottom end of the ring so the bottom of the staircase comes up through the hole in C. If you put the rings on B and C in any other way, they don't lay right. And if they don't lay right, no other scale you add will lay right and it gets really frustrating. If I could draw or render, I'd put up a picture.
  15. Hi, I picked up some small scales, split rings, and the split ring pliers, but I'm really having trouble manipulating them. My fingers aren't that fat. I think I understand the weave just fine. The videos I found on youtube were just static pictures in video form or time lapse so fast that I couldn't see anything useful. Does anyone have any tips or videos? Thanks!