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  1. harthag

    Plate/scale fusion possibility? Noob questions.

    That was great Rob ! And appropriate on so many levels ! Thanks
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    Large to Medium Scales

    So ... how was that done? I love the idea of variations in scale sizes on different parts of armor, and transitioning from one to another like that.
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    Plate/scale fusion possibility? Noob questions.

    Now that's a big benefit! At least in my mind. How much does TRL Chain and scale mail rattle, in general, (I know it will vary significantly from one material and weave to another, so maybe assuming a more common weave and material for general armor)?
  4. Rob, Since you bring up a good point about weapon types and combat styles, I'm more interested in the effects against shorter "stabby-er" weapons, like a Roman Gladius (at the long end), short sword/dagger, maybe a glancing blow from a spear or small ax. Not so much the longer sword variations you mentioned or direct blows from spears or heavy blows from axes or blunt weapons. T. OHeir, I'm asking specifically about Bracers because they are the one part of the armor where the direction of Gravity changes relatively frequently, as opposed to being a relative constant situation on the rest of the armor (maybe upper arms change too, but even those wouldn't be inverted as often as bracers.
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    where to get Netted gloves for Scale Bracer

    I did a google image search for the terms "netted biking gloves". The very first pic in the results was a similar version, in a tan/kahki -ish color, for sale on Amazon.com. I went to the page and then used Amazon's function to find similar items until I found an inexpensive (at least it seemed that way to me at about $9) one in black, and posted the image here. This is the page of the ad itself: http://www.amazon.com/Nashbar-Crochet-Gloves/dp/B004UMEAK0/ref=cts_ap_1_fbt I wasn't, and I'm still not, sure if the wrist closure or palm padding on it would be a problem for the design you want, I was just trying to get the "netting" material and pattern right.
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    Plate/scale fusion possibility? Noob questions.

    Thanks Konstantin ! I suspected (and hoped) you would chime in on that. I've been lurking for a while now, but haven't said much yet, and I really enjoy the historical and technical info you bring. Thanks again.
  7. Great information, thanks guys! I was not expecting such a quick response. Paladin, don't go to the trouble of making a sample on my account. If you have other reasons to do the sample, I'd be happy to see the results, but if I can't figure it out from your explanation, I'll ask around some more when I get to that point (it'll probably be a while, cause I'm pretty busy myself). Thanks again !
  8. My first topic, bear with me. I'm wondering about the difference in the protective qualities of the direction of the scales in Scale Maille bracers. I've seen this question mentioned in passing in many threads, but I haven't been able to find a discussion about it specifically. If there is one, and I missed it, please feel free to call me an idiot as you point me to it. Below are some examples of what I'm referring to: http://www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/gallery/image/5384-scale-gauntlet/ http://www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/gallery/image/1050-p1020360jpg/ Assuming all materials were the same, and "armor grade" materials, not necessarily the materials in those pics (I'm not sure of those materials anyway), which would provide better protection? Scales laid out starting from the hand and "pointing" toward the elbow, like the first pic? or scales laid out starting from the elbow and "pointing" toward the hand, like the second pic? Or is there no significant difference in the "level of protection" they provide? I hope this made sense. Thanks in advance for any input.
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    Plate/scale fusion possibility? Noob questions.

    The original question may have been answered to the satisfaction of the original poster, but this is a topic that intrigues me so I thought I'd see if it can be worked out in a bit more detail. How I understood the original question, they were asking how to make Voiders out of scale mail, instead of Chain mail, and how to attach the Voiders to the rest of the armor. I like that concept, and would be interested to know the answer to that. Especially placing the scales *outside* of the plate armor, instead of *underneath*, like chain mail voiders are usually done. Has anyone attempted that? Also, at what point is an armor plate too small to be called a "plate", and become a "lame" instead. And when is a "lame" too small for that name, and called a "scale"? Or are the terms related to how they are attached or word, rather than size?
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    where to get Netted gloves for Scale Bracer

    Do you mean this type of "netted" ? : http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81BE66ec3VL._SL1500_.jpg
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    group_3_161.jpg

    That looks awesome. Any ideas to keep the squares from rotating?
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    Chinese Mountain Armor

    When I came across this thread, I was playing around with scale geometry looking for a way to imitate shark scale on scale mail with almost no tools or equipment (since I have almost none at my disposal at the moment). My goals matched all of Zlosks, except that I was not trying to interlock the scales like this Mountain Design does. Nevertheless, one promising option I had found for my own project was easily adapted to this mountain design, so I thought I'd share. It's based on hexagons, which makes it a relatively simple geometric shape with few complicated bends or overly sharp corners, which should qualify for criteria "4". http://orig04.deviantart.net/4d2f/f/2015/315/6/8/hex_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9gar1n.jpg http://orig07.deviantart.net/da48/f/2015/315/0/c/hex2_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9gar5t.jpg http://orig06.deviantart.net/79a7/f/2015/315/e/1/hex3_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9garjm.jpg http://orig07.deviantart.net/63ce/f/2015/315/6/b/hex4_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9garz8.jpg If the geometry were perfect, you would have exactly one third (1/3) of the area triple thick, and 2/3 double thick, with exceptions for any holes punched in the scales or changes to the shape for the purpose of attaching them either to each other or to a backing. (partial completion of criteria 1) http://orig09.deviantart.net/718a/f/2015/315/7/1/hex5_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9gas76.jpg http://orig07.deviantart.net/84f4/f/2015/315/c/4/hex6_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9gascj.jpg In practice, the bending of the plate to form either the defined ridges or more domed curves will narrow each "leg" and create the gaps needed to nest them (Criteria "3"), create some flexibility (Criteria "2"), and also reduce the triple coverage (Criteria "1" more successfully completed) and introduce some single coverage gaps (unavoidable with this type of weave unless you completely sacrifice flexibility) http://orig02.deviantart.net/6a9e/f/2015/315/3/9/hex_7_by_suaamigamisteriosa-d9gasiu.jpg (sorry about the poor quality of that last image in particular, and my images in general, I'm no artist) As of the creation of those images, I had not taken into consideration any specific method of weaving or attaching to a backing. And I have no experience in any machine driven possibilities for fabricating such a design. It was meant for fabrication with hand tools, one scale at a time.
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