Renegade

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  1. Yep, but again, I'm relatively paranoid and also want it for the protective aspect! I started making it when I stopped smoking so I could have something to do with my hands and since then have decided that as I have already put so much effort into it I may as well try and make it as knife proof as possible! I hadn't thought about the sweat aspect, silly me! I'll have to look into ways to protect it as the last thing I want is for all my work to go to waste, wouldn't by chance know of a decent oil to submerge the shirt in? I think I read linseed oil somewhere but as I have you here I'll take your advice! I could also see about re-galvanizing it when it's finally finished but that may just be a pipe dream as I don't know of anywhere that would do it on such a small scale or if it would even work, but that's my homework for tonight anyway, if that fails then I'll go down the oiling it path.
  2. I'm hoping for it to be pretty sturdy and to look sweet hence why I opted for 6 in 1 rather than 4, should have looked into it more before starting, would have gotten myself titanium as it would end up stronger and lighter however I would need to be buying the rings pre-cut from The Ring Lord, but I guess if it needs repairs at any point that would be a pain, but as I should have a few rings left over of galvanized I should be able to make any repairs as needed without needing any other equipment, other than the TIG welder, which should pay for itself which is why I am going down that career path, would hate to buy it and only use it for the one thing as they are far from cheap. I'll get some use out of it before I strip the zinc off it and weld it as I doubt I will want to keep working on it when it's eventually finished being weaved, for a while at least anyway.
  3. I figured that the smell would be part and parcel of dealing with vinegar, but I don't mind as the galvanized steel smells like piss anyway lol I don't think I want to risk having a bottle of strong acid in my place, pets could hurt themselves and what with the UK becoming the West's very own capital of acid attacks I don't want to end up on a watch list! I'll stick to the basic principals you have pointed out, got myself vinegar, some baking soda and my next buy will be two or 3 big stainless steel pots to submerge the mail in, plus I think the advantage of using vinegar is that it is less likely to immediately rust if I'm not fast enough to pull it out and I can relatively safely bring it to a boil to increase its reactivity to speed up the reaction time. Thinking if I can get my hands on a TIG welder I will give that a go, will be a long expensive process but with a good TIG welder I will be able to get myself odd jobs that should help the rig pay for itself when I'm done with the shirt, as there are relatively few welders in my town. I'm starting a welding course at the start of next year so I'll get good at it and hopefully by the end of it be able to give advice here like that that I have gotten! The reason I want it so strong is that I'm extremely paranoid and would put money on it that there is another world war brewing, not a lot of guns in the UK, but a hell of a lot of knives and I have seen the stress tests on simple butted mail and it just doesn't do the job nearly as well as riveted or welded. All in all I think the smarter move is making a chainmail shirt that could stop a knife rather than carrying a knife and getting arrested. Armour is like a condom, better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it, and in the meantime it will strengthen my legs if I wear it while I walk the dog up hills. "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
  4. 100% but I should be able to manage that by dissolving it in vinegar, I've read you can use stronger acid and base and it will be done faster but I'll stick with kitchen chemistry rather than going and buying strong acid. Only issue I can think of is a bit of rust after I have left it in what is essentially 95% water, but I have a bag of sand and a pillow case, should work for cleaning it, right? Or would I need a wire brush? Because I have cut the rings with bolt cutters, some of them have a bit of a thin strip of metal where the ends meet would this mean it would be a smarter move to mig weld or is spot welding still the better bet?
  5. I'm going to be stubborn and do it anyway, already put so much effort and time into the project that I'm not willing to start again, I'd rather give myself a bit more work that to start over, I may eventually make a second shirt and if I do I'll definitely do it with the proper material, but you just can't give some people advice it seems! Haha I have done some reading and it seems I can do it with vinegar, I'll keep an eye on it and as soon as it stops reacting I'll neutralise it as quickly as possible with boiling water and baking soda, as with it the boiling water it should evaporate quickly off the rings, and as soon as that's done I can dip it in oil to make sure it is sealed! Will just need to buy myself some buckets and a few litres of oil, vinegar and a bunch of baking soda. I'm committed at this point, plus making the spot welder will be a nice change of pace instead of weaving rings for hours on end, it's still a toss up on if I will build a MOT spot welder or if I'll just be lazy and buy a mig, but at least I'll not poison myself when I use them!
  6. Was considering tossing the finished shirt into a fire but I don't think that's a good idea, glad I came here to get advice first!
  7. I've seen welds beaten with a hammer to knock off excess material, but I get the feeling that would potentially screw the shirt up, I've seen someone say that welding with galvanised is a pretty terrible weld and that paw paw made the mistake of heating gal. What do you think of the "dissolve the zinc in acid" approach? Would it reduce the wire gauge to the point that it wouldn't be worth it, or would it be alright and allow me to get it welded without risking health issues? I really want it for the weight, but also in case I ever need a knife proof shirt. I will be wearing it for hikes, most people would buy ankle weights or put water in a backpack, but I'd rather go to the extreme of putting hundreds of man hours into a heavy shirt lol
  8. Thanks for all the information, seems you're an old hand at this sort of thing so I'll take your advice on not risking foundry flu or even death by heating the zinc. There are bound to be other ways to get rid of the zinc tho so that I'm not ending up wasting my time or risking serious health problems. I remember in school we dissolved zinc in some sort of acid, could that work? Or would it completely screw the metal up? I've already wound and cut my ~35,000ish rings, which was no small feat so I don't want to just give up. I really want the rings to be welded shut but not at the risk of destroying my health. I don't know what sort of acid I would use or if I could even get my hands on acid, or if it would end up rusting the rings very quickly, but I could always give it a dip in oil after the zinc dissolved to wash off any excess moisture, wouldn't happen to know a good oil for rings? Would need to get enough to submerge the whole shirt but that's an issue for future me!
  9. That's a damn shame as I've already gotten the bones of it finished with galvanised, the shoulder straps and across the chest all connected up and it's taken me months. I suppose I could always make a new one using carbon steel and weld that one, but it's a daunting task for someone who's not selling them! If I do buy one I'll get it from TRL as it's built for the purpose, I'm still toying with the idea of a mig welder tho even tho it's less than ideal as I'm not too worried about how it will look when it's done, I can't imagine the bump would be too big, but then again I've never welded anything so I could be way off. Have you used a mig to close rings before and I'm just being stubborn by wanting a mig welder? If I do decide to weld the galvanised shirt up what kind of breathing equipment am I looking at? Just a plaster board sort mask with the filters, or a full on welding helmet with a ventilator? When I started making this I thought butted would be fine, hence the galvanised, then I found out it was weak if repeatedly used, hindsight is 20/20 Thanks for the reply!
  10. Could get myself a fan and do it in a well ventilated area, also get a mask to be extra safe, I'd rather not poison myself lol How come you need a timer? And do you have any links for timers I could splice into the home made spot welder? Why would you not mig weld chainmail? I would have thought it would be the easier method Thanks for the quick reply!
  11. Making E6-in-1 with 14 gauge galvanised wire, when the shirt is finished I was wanting to weld it shut but am a total novice when it comes to welding so I figured I would ask for advice. Would making a spot welder out of an old microwave transformer be the way to go, or would it be easier to shut the rings with a mig welder as it would be a lot more forgiving on a noobie like myself? Also if I go for the mig welder, would the current pass through the whole shirt if I clamped it down on some metal, or would I essentially need to hook up each ring before shutting it? Thanks in advance for the advice!