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I have been thinking about making a maille kilt for some time, and now I am ready to get this project rolling. I not a mailler, I am a kiltmaker and a kiltwearer. This will be my first maille project, and I'd like to probe the wisdom of the experts for as much insight as possible before I settle on my choice of methods and materials. I have been leaning toward large shiny aluminum scales due to weight, "modesty," and budget concerns (I am estimating around 14 square feet and 18 lbs). However, I am still on the fence for several reasons: I am going to be sitting in this thing, how well do the shiny scales wear? the shinies are the thinnest Alscales; will they bend if I sit on them? How bad will it look when my butt de-shines and my front doesn't I am a runner and I have an ass. A decent amount of waist suppression will have to be done for this kilt to fit properly. I have seen that scales can do compressions well, but how do they fare with expansions? Is it a bad idea to do this with with large scales; should I shell out the extra cash and use the finer weave of the small scales to produce a more even curvature? Waistband. Scales tend to turn inward. Would getting stabbed in the gut by the tops of the scales be something I should be concerned about? Could I avert this with an inch of 4in1 or kind of roll a couple lines of 4in1 from behind the scales to the front? I suppose I could grind down the points of the top row of scales. Sway. It is important for a kilt to have proper sway. Obviously, this kilt would have more heft than most, but do the large scales articulate enough for a good swing? I assume they do, but I would rather not rely on assumptions. EDIT: UPDATE!!! I had stopped working on this back in August but picked it up three weeks ago and made a lot of progress. Here we go. So far: 10 pleats 4 scales wide (alternating rows) and 3 scales deep to avoid excessive layering the first pleat and additional reverse pleat are extra deep (tenatively 6 scales) pleats are not pleated but actually layered strips there are are four expansions between the hipline and waistline at the leading edges of the 1st, 3rd, 8th and 10th/reverse pleat sorry for the grainy picture. I had to use my webcam because i broke my digicam filming a hovercraft. the wobbliness is due to the expansions. it looked a lot cleaner before i put them in expansion top of pleats i will post better pics when i have access to a camera that can show the details. Planned : move expansions on 3rd and 8th pleats to the 4th and 7th pleats to ease rounding and stress have one apron that attaches the first and reverse pleats instead of overlapping aprons (reduces weight / solves problem of aligning an overlapping waistband and needing two closures) make an elastic waistband (E6in1 hanging open?) of alternating steel and rubber rings so it slips on as a skirt. lowest row may be springsteel gradually replace pleats and lower parts of the apron with scale fabric using BA rings Tentative: add an additional pleat and reduce the width of the apron connect the lower half of the pleats so they actually act like pleats kilt pin?