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#1 Bernice Daniels

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:13 AM

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - Introducing Grant. Grant is the guy in charge of making the newer bright anodized cut cut rings. To improve communications we've decided to let you hear about bright anodized straight from the man himself.

Grant can answer any questions about bright anodized and has a better idea of when we'll have the rings in stock than I do.

Grant - chime in here and introduce yourself.

#3 Grant

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:15 AM

Hello everyone, nice to be here, as Jon mentioned I have been involved with Jon and Bernice in the development of the new Bright Anodizing color pallet for about two years. I have also been making chain maille and rings for around seven years. I have been watching the forum posts daily during the last two years and some of the new bright anodized products came from ideas presented here. We hope to be announcing further developments in the Bright Anodized line but right now we are still catching up with regular stocked items as we were not able to buy wire for about three months due to an explosion/shutdown of a major North American aluminum producer. Round wire availability is almost back to normal and we hope to get our first shipment of square wire in the next 2-3 months. That’s it for now I have to get back to making rings…

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:44 AM

Grant - Can you please tell me the consistence of the new Bright Anodizing is from batch to batch (either time wise of size wise). Does the colour consistence match up extremely well or are there noticeable differences between batches?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:17 PM

The short answer, there are differences from batch to batch for bright anodized rings.

The long answer, for each color we have two anodized coils as samples to match a particular color that are a shade apart, one lighter/one darker, which are our guide lines. Part of my job is managing the anodizing line (a line of 36 sequential tanks roughly 12 ft long x 5 ft deep x 30 in wide containing cleaning solutions, caustic or acid solutions, dye colors, and seals) for our rings. When I first started anodizing I thought that I should be able to get the identical color from batch to batch, since then I have been severely schooled. Anodizing is a combination of art and science. The process involves multiple individuals working different sections of the line with each of them having to coordinate with the others to create a color. Factors include ph values of acids, bases, rinses, and seals that are constantly changing due to a factor called “Drag” (as an anodized piece goes down the line from one tank to the next it retains some of the fluid from the previous tank as it goes into the next tank) which alters the ph value of the various tanks, thus affecting the final color. In addition there is anodizing time for each color that varies on the color required. Furthermore, the dyes used are organic and over days or weeks the dye absorption properties change to a point where it becomes contaminated (mold forms) and we have to make a new tank of dye. These are the main obstacles but there are even more things affecting the final color. Home anodizing kits avoid many of these problems as the quantity of aluminum being anodized negates a lot of these issues. I compare our anodizing process to trying to bake a cake but you have to mix the ingredients in the backing pan, in the oven, while an invisible person adds and subtracts some of the ingredients and get the taste exactly the same each time.
On a related subject, some forum members have brought up occasional aspect ratio differences. This is rare and happens mostly with 20g wire rings if we don’t get the color correct the first time. To strip the anodized coating and re-run the batch thins the wire slightly but we have this happen less than 1% of overall production.

BTW I like the work you did on you corset/dress.

#6 Grant

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:23 PM

selppin, The color differences occur each batch so over time and sizes there can be a slight vairiance.

Grant - Can you please tell me the consistence of the new Bright Anodizing is from batch to batch (either time wise of size wise). Does the colour consistence match up extremely well or are there noticeable differences between batches?

Thanks

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

I must admit I am ring obsessed. Just today I was going to check a batch of lavender and as I walked up a lady I work with said exactly what I was thinking “What a beautiful color” we both see rings every day but the colors still catch my eye.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:36 PM

To just definitely let everyone know... sign up for the stock notifications for the rings you're waiting to come into stock! There's a few that didn't get put up here that I got notifications for in email. I might have missed them otherwise! (and now for the 'please add these rings to my order' email. heh)

#9 Bernice Daniels

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:14 AM

Announcing the new Bright Anodized Bronze!
We have stock in 20g 1/8", 20g 5/32" and 16g 3/8"
All saw cut sizes will eventually be stocked.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

Will the "violet" colour be continued? I've been using it for years and much prefer it to the purple, but it has yet to been added to the new anodizing process in saw cut. I've also yet to see it available for scales, at least not since I started using scales.

 

I've had oodles of compliments over this violet colour and would hate to have to change to the darker less pretty purple.



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

Sorry the violet color is a bulk process only color right now. It was replaced by lavender with the bright process. 

It is not available in the scales either. You can custom order small amounts of violet scales. Email directly for details.



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:40 PM

I added a bunch of anodized aluminum specials today. We are playing with bulk anodizing machine cut rings using the bright colors. 

The first batch results came back and some of the rings are really good and some have too much variation.

The results are on the site for sale as specials now in 14g 3/8" only.

The blue/frost rings are really cool!

 

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You can find them with the AA rings or in the newly reformatted specials area.

http://theringlord.c...Fabric Specials

 

Enjoy!



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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

Announcing 19g 9/64" sky blue. 

 

BTW we are a little behind this on bagging product Grant is announcing - due to short staffing this week and a custom bagging project.

So we'll announce as soon as the items are bagged and on the site. Unfortunately we can't mark them into stock the moment they arrive here. 

 

I do not have an ETA on 16g 1/4" white. Grant?



#14 Grant

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:48 AM

Lord Ruthven: The 1614 White should be arriving in about 4 weeks.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

Well we've had an oops. The saw cut 16g 3/16" arrived and its 5/32". It has an AR around 2.56. We're playing with it now but as far as we can tell its only useful for Japanese connectors and sculpture. Its too small for Jens pind.

 

On the bright side - We have decided to get 16g 7/32" instead. (yay for byzantine peeps)



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

I just added 4 new colors of 19g 9/64" saw cut AA.

Gold, Red, Royal Blue and White

 

Enjoy!



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

Any idea on how much longer for the 18G 3/16 Orange (SXAA1831)? 



#18 Grant

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

We are doing the saw cut orange in the new bright anodized
process.  It will be at least 8 weeks.



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

I don't want to cause a stampede but... if you are wanting the square 18G 3/16" that just arrived you might want to get them soon as at this rate they will not be in stock long.



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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

What is the ETA for the Bronze (SXAA18316) ?






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