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that depends very much on the pattern used to make the hauberk.  if it is a straight barrel chest with no expansions/contractions, you could just take a vertical strip out of the front and back in the center, and then you might need to take a couple rows from the neck hole to make that a little bigger.  that should contract the chest without affecting the shoulders/arms.  if you've got expansions/contractions, you'd obviously need to work around those.

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that depends very much on the pattern used to make the hauberk.  if it is a straight barrel chest with no expansions/contractions, you could just take a vertical strip out of the front and back in the center, and then you might need to take a couple rows from the neck hole to make that a little bigger.  that should contract the chest without affecting the shoulders/arms.  if you've got expansions/contractions, you'd obviously need to work around those.

Thanks.

It's the European 4-in-1. What would be the best way for making that smaller?

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i meant the hauberk design (barrel chest, trevor barker, bladeturner, etc.), not the chainmail weave; regardless, my previous advice should work as long as there are no contractions and/or expansions that would be affected.

 

e.g. removing a center strip of the trevor barker design, would mess up the D contractions and E expansions, plus it would pull A and C closer to the middle which might mess up your shoulder blade mobility:

 

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standard bladeturner, on the other hand, has no expansions or contractions, so it would not be affected.

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Well it looks fairly barrel shape.

If nessacarly you can remove a sripe done the middle and back then retailor the neck as needed.

The rings look fairly large and it may not hold up well for heavy use.

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When I make chainmail, I'd like to use 16 gauge; however, I'm unsure of how wide to make the rings. I haven't found any tutorials on that. I'd like it to last for a long while.

Thanks!

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it does say it's 16ga, but it doesn't have inner diameter, but it looks pretty big like losthelm said.  i also notice he didn't specify what type of "metal" it is.  if that is an accurate picture, it looks too light to be galvanized or mild steel, and for that price it won't be stainless, so i'm afraid it's probably aluminum, which really won't hold up to anything beyond costume-wear and light larping.

 

if the arms end up being too big too, you can also take a small strips out from the front, back, and both sides all the way through the armpit (depending on how that is attached) and down the sleeve.

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What's something that's galvanized and within $100? I just need something to last through Halloween and the renaissance festival.

I've searched the internet for a couple hours every day for the past few weeks.

This seller also doesn't even know what size the shirt is when I asked him.

Would 18 gauge last?

 

Edit:

I've also found this:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Museum-Replica-Handmade-Medieval-Chain-Mail-Shirt-and-Coif-Armor-Set-Full-Size-/201377274963?hash=item2ee3055c53

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if you're just looking for costume-wear for halloween and a renaissance festival, i think this will work fine, even if it is aluminum, because it will also be much lighter if that is the case.  

 

there's really nothing that's going to be strong for under $100, even with these chinese-made shirts.  materials alone are going to top that for an armor-grade, galvinized hauberk.

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oh - i forgot about zinc plated steel - it's possible that's what both are.  it will be really shiny until the zinc wears off (which it will start to do after a few uses) and then it will rust.  that second link is probably the same sized links as the first (16ga, 3/8" ID).  i'd probably just go with the cheaper if i had to choose between the two, unless you want the coif too, then it's probably cheaper to do the second.

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Yeah, together it's cheaper.
I don't like that both sellers have negative reviews for bad communication. With the first one, I had poor communication from the seller who doesn't know what he's selling.  I'll probably buy from the second since they know what it's made of.  

 

Thank you for all your help!

 

I will start a thread this weekend when I begin making my own chainmail (long project ahead!).

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From the picture and price, I would guess the first one is also galvanized steel (which is steel coated with zinc), and it should be fine as a costume, if you can bear the weight.  The second one does specify it weighs 32 pounds, I suspect the first one has a similar weight considering the high shipping cost.

 

The second one tells you exactly the size of the rings, so you can easily buy some from here if you need them to do some adjustments : http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=21&cat=Machine+Cut+Galvanized+Steel+Jump+Rings    

 

16 gauge 1/4" galvanized makes pretty sturdy armor, you'll be fine as long as you are not trying to fend off real weapons with it.

 

(Aluminum would be more expensive (also much lighter but not as strong).)

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The chainmail I bought from eBay should be coming in by Friday (although it's not a seller that has good shipping and communication reviews). I'll see what I have when it comes in, and I will post a picture. I'm 100% certain that I'll downsize the chainmail.

Thanks guys.

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sorry - i was confusing chromium-plated ("chrome") with zinc-plated ("galvinized").

 

if that second link is really 16ga 1/4" ID gavy, that is crazy cheap even for the materials (32 lbs here would be over $250).  it's a little confusing because a little higher in the description he says the links are 10mm, which is about 3/8", but i guess that could be ED - that would be about right.  regardless, they ain't paying those chinese kids much at that price!

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Yeah, those look like the standard India- or Pakistan-made maille sold all over the place. Most of these are made of galvanised 1.6x9mm (around 16 ga. 11/32") rings. They don't have any contractions or expansions to worry about when resizing.

 

Yes, those shirts are cheap, cheaper even than just the materials would cost from TRL. You get what you pay for, though: bad closures on most of the rings, ugly ring cuts, soft metal, bad fit, and so on and so forth. They're good for Halloween and Larp (if you don't set your standards too high), but not much else. The market demands them to be as cheap as possible, so corners are cut. Which is a shame - if they took a bit more time and used slightly better tools and materials, they could deliver much better work.

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Yeah, and I'll definitely be sure to go through and check every ring and make fixes.

My chainmail will be arriving a day early: Thursday, the 8th.

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I have a question about a helmet now, from overstock (I contacted their support and they have me these dimensions for a sugarloaf helmet):

"13.5" in Length and 8" in width. "

Would that fit over a 23 inch circumference head and a chainmail coif?

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Maybe, its around 24-25" in diameter.

Diameter*3.14 should give you circumference.

Though it maybe tight, most people are a little narrower side to side and longer front to back.

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Maybe, its around 24-25" in diameter.

Diameter*3.14 should give you circumference.

Though it maybe tight, most people are a little narrower side to side and longer front to back.

Thanks!

Because of that, I've stretched the budget and bought a helmet from a local (well, local as in state), it's 27" circumference and that should fit. I'll see how it fits when it comes in on Monday (the chainmail took 2 days to ship from MD, the helmet will take 5 days when it takes only 4 hours to drive from here to there, not sure why).

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Hello again,

Chainmail came in yesterday. It is big on me as expected.

I have a couple of questions:

1. What's an alternative to wear instead of arming caps under my coif? I tried a hand towel, that didn't work.

2. How do I redistribute some of the chainmail weight over my belt? I've tried jumping and pulling. Jumping didn't get it up over the belt. Pulling it up and over resulted in the belt being pressed on my gut, making it painful and hard to breathe.

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Thanks!

I have another question (sorry guys!).  I have a sugar loaf helmet, I'm wondering what the ideal method of getting it to fit in the best way is.  This helmet often presses against my nose (I have a 23" head size), it's 27".  It fits better with my chainmail coif on.  Would an arming cap (or some alternative since I don't have one) be the solution for a better fit?

 

Thanks,

Sinjid

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