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Question about weight vs strength. Making a dragonscale tie.

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First and foremost: if this question is answered elsewhere on this forum, I sincerely apologize. I did my best to find this information on my own before posting a new thread.

I am making the dragonscale tie from the tutorial available on TRL, and there's one thing I'm unsure of. I hope I'm not breaking any rules by quoting the tutorial, since it's a paid tutorial, but I need clarification before I buy my materials.

The tutorial states: 

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It is a decorative weave and only as strong as the smaller ring. In this case the tie relies on the larger ring being stainless for it to be strong enough.

This seems like doublespeak to me. If it's only as strong as the smaller ring, doesn't the larger ring, being stainless and therefore heavier, make it weaker structurally?

What I want to do is make the tie entirely out of anodized aluminum. This would make it lighter and also give me the primary red color I want instead of making it secondary. Does anyone know if I can do this without having to worry about strength?

If not, could I use stainless small rings and AA large ones(based on the logic that the smaller one determines the strength)?

Thanks in advance for any advice you're willing to give.

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yes, that seems like a misprint in the tutorial, and your reasoning is accurate - smaller stainless and larger aa is fine.  you could also use ti for the smaller ring if you want it lighter and cost isn't a major factor - you could even use red anodized ti, though it probably wouldn't match the aa very well.

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Price isn't a huge issue, but this is my first project, and something tells me I shouldn't jump straight into titanium dragonscale. xD

What I really wanna do is make it entirely out of red AA. I just want to make sure it will be able to hold its weight. There will be ~7000 rings total so at ~750rings/oz with AA, it should be around 9.3oz. Most of the weight will be held by the link points between the chain, knot, and the tie itself. That's about as much as I can deduce, on my own, however.

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I see on the material data page that AA has aUTS rating of  ~60ksi, but I'm not really what that measurement tells me about how much weight it can hold.

I feel like I might be just WAY overthinking this... Thanks for your help, at any rate.

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i don't have the tutorial, so i don't know what size of links it's suggesting - i'm assuming 18-20 ga?  i'd say if you were even kind of careful, it should be fine in all aa.  it will certainly hold it's own weight; you'd just have to make sure it doesn't get caught on anything and yanked really hard - things like that.

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Sorry, I should've put that to begin with. It's 20ga 3/16"and 1/8".

Yeah, I don't expect it'll get put through any abuse. It'll most likely be worn rarely, and, even then, it'll have a dress coat over it.

Thanks again for all your help! Gonna place my order now and hope it gets to my house before the next time I have to go out on the road. I'll post pics of it when I'm done.

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