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Rain of the Night

Starting a Chainmail with 14ga

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Good day Everyone,

I'm planning to start a chainmail project now (have the funds and the time!) and I wanted to know; I'm going 14ga, as I don't like the thin 16ga.

So I know, euro 4-1, you want a relatively small ring. I was wondering if 14ga 5/16" would be adequate or not, or if I should go smaller/larger ring. If someone has pictures and examples of how it looks, I would be grateful.

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14 gauge SWG -- .080" diameter -- works superbly for Creative Anachronist baton-battering in either 5/16" ID (aspect ratio roughly 4, which is always good for E4-1 shirts and other armor) or 3/8" (A.R. about 5.6, still plenty good) which is more open and coarser looking, yet plenty strong and functional.

I hope to hear explicitly just what it is you're building -- 14 gauge suggests an armor project.  Right?

16gaSWG@1/4" links are actually closer to historical mail in link and wire size -- still somewhat heavy yet in the wire.  This slimmer wire is indeed more affected by A.R. in the larger end of the link size distribution.  The beefier 14 ga can stand bigger links.

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Excellent -- and ambitious in terms of time commitment.  You're looking at from eight to twelve weeks of reasonable amounts of time (an hour or two per weekday) on the hobby, between other endeavors like school, meals, and making some medieval garb to flesh everything else out.

Hauberks are shirts -- they're just variously big, depending on whether they are eleventh-century (half sleeves) to thirteenth-century (long sleeves ending in mitts, integral coif) finishing up in the early decades of the fourteenth.

Sounds like you have the haburgeon in mind -- the sort of thing everyone thinks of for a shirt of mail; they're short sleeved, mid-thigh length.  (Don't have the hem at the height of your nuts!  Armour's supposed to stop you from being hurt!)

There's a shorter shirt, the vest-size byrnie.  This one is strictly for Vikings and the Beowulf era.

This is the best shirt tute on the interwebz:  https://web.archive.org/web/20160508055350/http://homepage.ntlworld.com/trevor.barker/farisles/guilds/armour/mail.htm -- download it so it will never disappear.  It's about 4-5 pages of typescript.

 

 

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So, for your armor project:  armor depends entirely on the threat level you anticipate.

LARP:   least demanding, as weapons are generally deeply padded with stiff foam; actual protection almost not needed -- butted mail entirely sufficient.

SCA:  moderately demanding, as SCAdians strike each other with stout rattan batons which are not padded, though are a minimum of 1 1/4" across the striking surface/edge -- if you can call that an edge.  There is also SCA Cut & Thrust, which is metal blades, some holding back on the force of cutting, and including more use of the point than the rattan-swingers do, hence the Thrust.  I figure you are not arming for SCA Light, which is rapier -- mostly point, little if any edge; has the convention of using protective armor that does not look like armor but like clothing, more in the stout-canvas/reinforced range of protection, plus a 3-weapon fencing mask.

HEMA/ARMA/Fechtbuch stuff:  most demanding, as they also use rebated, or training-type, steel blades, strikes with metal pommels and steel guards, blades of every sort, straight and curved.  These guys need riveted mail if they use any visible mail at all.  They avoid the full-power strikes of SCA rattan fighting, but this is a steel arm, after all...  this is rather like jiujitsu to the SCA's judo.

For TL;DR, what if anything are you figuring on getting hit with?

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